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BAMF
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:18 am |
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So I'm just a few weeks away from sending in my approval shots. Who do I send that to BTW?
And it would be a shame to have to do it twice to fix up some little thing. So is my costume all clear?
I've read and re-read the standards and it seems right to me.
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The Clone Emperor
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Post subject: process Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:34 am |
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Good morning,
I would recommend posting your new and improved images here, in this thread, before completing and sending in your 501st application.
(First you send in your application, then the Garrison Member Liaison (GML) of the specific region you are applying in will contact you for photos. Then I will give the final review of your Expanded Universe costume in the GML forum. From there your GML will either promote your application status in the database or communicate with you what areas need improvement.)
It might be good to get a pre-review here where all can see and benefit.
Remember the list of 501st requirements for a costume is just a list. It has little to do with the approval of a costume. How the costume and the costumer matches the visual reference is the key.
Be well, Thomas
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ladyb
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:29 am |
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What Thomas said
It looks like
Garrison Membership Liaison – Bradley Bristow Stagg
gml [at] 501tag [dot] com
is the person to contact directly based on the site. Do post some pictures.
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BAMF
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:01 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:16 pm |
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BAMF wrote: My costume hasn't changed from Supanova though.
If that is the case you might want to take a look at the several suggestions that were posted, most all seemed to be good suggestions. Only Thomas or perhaps Pam could say definitively, but those would help.
From the pictures you linked too it looks like it would be helpful to make a template for the tattoos, if you'd like we could share what we use, just let us know. Good luck with it.
Edited for spelling
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Twi'lek Pam
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:41 pm |
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BAMF wrote: So I'm just a few weeks away from sending in my approval shots. Who do I send that to BTW? And it would be a shame to have to do it twice to fix up some little thing. So is my costume all clear? I've read and re-read the standards and it seems right to me.
I would like to suggest a different way of thinking. You seem to have an impatient outlook when it comes to making costumes and getting your costumes approved. Often when faced with that outlook, I find myself hesitant to offer suggestions because I fear that the person will either offer excuses for why they think something is "close enough" (which usually means that it isn't) or they'll complain that we're being too picky about the details. But, the 501st is all about the details. We are dedicated to professional quality costuming, and we spend a lot of time making and remaking our costumes until they're just right. There is no "shame" in being asked to go back and revise things. I've been costuming for years, and I still have costume elements that I get wrong on every costume that I make. It takes me a while (and the help of other costumers) to get things figured out. It's all about the process, and learning how to use the materials to their best effect.
Here are the elements that I see, working down from head to toe. Some of these have been addressed before.
Bald cap - needs to be glued down at the back of the neck. This will improve the look at the back of the head, and will reduce the wrinkles visible around the rest of the bald cap.
Tattoo patterns - The tattoos over the ears are missing, and the ones on the cheeks are a bit too small.
Collar - Asajj's collar is incredibly difficult to make. I think youv'e got it pretty close. Not perfect, but nicely done. How were the lines put on it? I cannot tell in the picture, but it looks somewhat like silver Sharpie, perhaps. I think the collar is passable, but I'm wondering if, with a bit of work, you can take it up a notch to make it truly stunning. I would suggest coloring the underside of the collar black. When you raise your arms, the stark-white of the underside becomes visible and it detracts from the finished look. Another option is to attach the collar to your shirt so that it cannot rise up.
Shirt - The white areas of your shirt should be pale gray. You may have interpreted the light areas of the doll as being white, but they are not a true white. It is tinted. Compare the true white color of her face to the off-white color of the shirt, and you can see the difference. I would also suggest bringing the black around further behind your arms. It seems to end quite abruply, and would look better if the front and back matched. The horizontal lines are not required in the shirt, but you may find that they add a great bit of detail to the costume.
Forearm wraps- Your forearm pieces look like Renaissance inspired leather vambraces with buckles on them. Can you offer a reference for that look? If not, then they need to be proper wraps as seen in the references.
Belt - The belt is beautiful, but it must be dyed black.
Skirt - Well done. I like the weight, cut, and flow of the material.
Leggings - Good to go.
Boots - Yup, those look right.
Pam :-)
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BAMF
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:44 am |
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I'm not impatient, just obsessive with getting my costumes just right.
That was the first time I did a bald cap and forgot to bring the glue along with me. Obviosuly I wouldn't wear it like that otherwise.
In what photo do I not have the tattoos on my ears?
The lines in the collar are made of silver thread.
I think you're right though. I should line it.
The belt is a deep brown, looks lighter in the pictures. But it's like this:
http://theflagshipeclipse.com/gallery/a ... loseup.jpg
Gauntlets:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/j ... 09-001.jpg
Can I dye the shirt, or will it have some effect on the black parts?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:40 am |
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BAMF wrote: In what photo do I not have the tattoos on my ears? I think I've seen them in all the photos but they're so light and small that they aren't seen. You're welcome to use my template if you like, this can be printed and then cut out of a sheet of plastic like from some packaging or whatnot. With some good theatrical black make-up applied with a makeup wedge it works well. http://www.mcapell3d.com/images/AsajjTats.pdfBAMF wrote: The lines in the collar are made of silver thread. I think you're right though. I should line it. After testing and trying several things what we opted for was to pull a little of the fabric together and run a thick round shoelace through it. I used a similar technique for the edges of the shirt on the front and arms to make the rim of the armour. BAMF wrote: The belt is a deep brown, looks lighter in the pictures. But it's like this: http://theflagshipeclipse.com/gallery/a ... loseup.jpgYes, the belt should be like that reference is, in black. BAMF wrote: Yes, the vambraces on that doll, like the boots, were design elements not seen anywhere else. We liked the look of the ones from the comic that Pam also has in the standards, but with that as a reference source they may be OK with Thomas, you'd need to check with him though. BAMF wrote: Can I dye the shirt, or will it have some effect on the black parts?
Not sure. That is what I would try, but I would definitely test it out on a scrap of both the white and the dark fabric to see how it will affect it and get the timing down precisely.
Good luck with things. Happy baldcapping. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:03 pm |
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dying the shirt a pale grey wont have any issue with the black parts, as no standard grey dye has any sort of lightening ingredient in it. of course it depends on what fabric the white parts are as to if the dye will take or how itl take. If you have a left over piece of that white fabric. test dye it first.
Also id include the princess seam on the back - so you have a matching black panel on the back and the 2 black side panels match up. The sideshow doll for example doesnt have a side seam (due to doll sizes) but on her top the black part does go round from front to back.
see on this great image, you can see a side seam and the black side panels are on both front and back
http://www.theflagshipeclipse.com/galle ... fullsize=1
the gauntlets on the sideshow are very cool, and a nice design, but they still are very tightly fitted to the arm. yours are still quite loose, take them in a bit id say and if you are matching to the doll then youll need more thin straps.
the face tattoos need to be thicker and bolder...youve got great eye makeup going on and the tattoos really should be as bold. A stencil as offered by Ladyb is a great way to go, or as i developed a sponge block print that i then went around with a liquid liner.
the belt is very cool indeed., but give it a wash of black leather dye and itll look even better. 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:01 pm |
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ladyb wrote: BAMF wrote: In what photo do I not have the tattoos on my ears? I think I've seen them in all the photos but they're so light and small that they aren't seen. You're welcome to use my template if you like, this can be printed and then cut out of a sheet of plastic like from some packaging or whatnot. With some good theatrical black make-up applied with a makeup wedge it works well. http://www.mcapell3d.com/images/AsajjTats.pdfBAMF wrote: The lines in the collar are made of silver thread. I think you're right though. I should line it. After testing and trying several things what we opted for was to pull a little of the fabric together and run a thick round shoelace through it. I used a similar technique for the edges of the shirt on the front and arms to make the rim of the armour. Like piping? And thanks for the templates. I wasn't sure just how obvious they should be. Sakara wrote: the face tattoos need to be thicker and bolder...youve got great eye makeup going on and the tattoos really should be as bold. A stencil as offered by Ladyb is a great way to go, or as i developed a sponge block print that i then went around with a liquid liner. the belt is very cool indeed., but give it a wash of black leather dye and itll look even better. 
The belt is reversible and it's black on the back, so that's makes things easier
Think I might completely redo the shirt anyway. Looks like a silverfish got at it.
Thanks, my mum does my eye make-up. I should probably let her do the rest of it too.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:02 am |
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BAMF wrote: The belt is reversible and it's black on the back, so that's makes things easier
Think I might completely redo the shirt anyway. Looks like a silverfish got at it.
Sounds like you're good to go on the belt, then. Very good.
Silverfish... aack! Of course, sometimes disasters like that can be clouds with a silver lining. I once had a mouse decide to eat one of my costume molds (What in the world is a mouse doing chewing up silicone!?), and I was devistated when I saw what had been done. But... it forced me to start over from scratch, and I did a MUCH better job the second time around. Darned little mouse helped me make a better costume. Now, in the future when you are sporting an improved shirt, you can blame it on a critter, too!
Pam
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BAMF
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:10 am |
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That is the case with alot of my costumes. I'll look back on them and realise what I could do better.
I guess this is a good opportunity to improve on it. And it will be a costume that I wear alot.
I think I might go for a light and dark grey combination and put some piping along the sleeves.
I need a shirt pattern though.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:20 am |
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Yes, like piping. I did try some fish tank piping in one try but it was a little too stiff and bulky, so I went with the shoelace that my husband suggested.
I didn't use a pattern for the shirt, just made it as I went but might be able to put something together if I have it. I'll need to check and see if we kept what I went from. I found a small fitted sweater and cut the shape of the lighter material out of it and then made those sections from what I did with the sweater.
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BAMF
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:14 am |
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I just modified a shirt too.
But if I made one following a pattern I can get the side panels and colours right.
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Sakara
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:56 pm |
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seams princess seams arent in fashion at the moment as i cant find a good pattern for you to work off.
Heres some guides on how create and modify a princess seam. It isnt that hard to do and having this knowledge means you'll be able to mod any pattern you like.
http://www.sewing.org/files/guidelines/ ... _seams.pdf
how to adjust to fit your bust and waist -
http://www.burdastyle.com/techniques/fu ... cess-seams
You can then take a pattern for a stretch top that has no seams in it at all and put the princess seams in, placing the seams for the side panels anywhere you want.
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